10 Oct update: This article confirms that fullfact are the ones who really need to be fact checked continually. Seems we were not the only people they are harrassing for simply reporting what was in the ONS data.
Readers of this blog will be aware that anybody who challenges (or even deviates slightly from) the 'official narrative' on Covid-19 is likely to be subject to both censorship and attempts to discredit.
It is somewhat flattering to know that our own work is considered a sufficient challenge to the narrative that we have now come to the attention of the self-appointed 'fact checking' organization fullfact.org.
Dear Professor Fenton
I'm writing from Full Fact about your
recent blog on the ONS's ASMR data by vaccination status.
According to this
twitter thread (which you may have seen?), the trends you identify in the
blog do not necessarily reflect concerning clinical outcomes, but are what
you would expect to see as the age profile of the vaccinated
groups changed over time. Do you agree with this?
I noticed that your blog says: "It is also
important to note that the population of vaccinated people is becoming
sufficiently large and representative that the criticality of age
adjustment becomes much diminished. We will be doing a follow-up analysis
that takes account of this." This sounds like it would address the issue.
Do you know when this follow-up analysis will be published?
All the best
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My response:
Dear <NAME REMOVED>
For a supposed
‘fact checker’ I find it interesting that you failed to check that I had not
only seen the thread by Michael George that you referred to but had made 3
responses to it (screenshot below); here are the actual
links to my response:
https://twitter.com/profnfenton/status/1442395816144949256?s=20
https://twitter.com/profnfenton/status/1442115313038868480?s=20
https://twitter.com/profnfenton/status/1442114417622228992?s=20
Of course, because
organizations like yours try to discredit anybody who challenges the ‘official’
narrative on Covid-19, anybody who does challenge this narrative tends to get
shadow-banned on twitter; indeed my replies
to hit pieces like that of Michael George are not easy to find.
We are indeed
working on a follow-up analysis which is massively complicated by the fact that
the ONS and PHE will not release the age categorized data on vaccination status
and all-cause deaths.
Perhaps your
investigative time would be better spent finding out why the ONS and PHE refuse
to release this crucial data (without which their ASMR claims cannot be checked
or verified).
Norman Fenton
This is the dumb follow-up which I will not respond to. Whatever we say they will no doubt mark our article as 'fake news' or 'false'.
Hi Norman
Thanks for sharing those responses, which I hadn't
seen.
Your replies don't seem to address Michael George's central
point, however, which is that the rising trend you identify is a result of the
changing age profile of the vaccinated groups. Do you disagree with that?
Just for the record, given your second reply, do you agree
that your blog does not provide evidence that the vaccines are harmful?